This weekend, John MacArthur got in trouble for associating the words “Beth Moore” with the words “go home.”
That’s right. Two words.
In fact, it was part of a rapid-fire question-and-answer panel he was participating in. The moderator–a former comedian–gave each speaker two words, and they were only allowed to answer with two word responses.
…Now, some people see MacArthur’s statement and the ensuing controversy as the beginning of a dialog. Some of us appreciate the opporunity to listen to MacArthur’s perspective (including his more in-depth comments later in the panel). Some of us enjoy being challenged by theological questions, checking what the Scriptures say, and wrestling with the Spirit that leads to Truth.
But, unfortunately, a large and growing group of Christians don’t need to hear anything on this subject other than “A man told a woman to go Home.”
For them, that’s the END of the discussion rather than the beginning, because criticizing a woman in that tone is–like–automatically hateful and inexcusable…
And even if MacArthur’s Theology is pretty accurate, it doesn’t matter since he’s clearly just attacking Beth Moore for no other reason than being a powerful male who doesn’t want women to have voices… Or something like that, I guess?
I could share comment after comment after comment from women who are acting like their very existence is under attack, just because of what the Bible says about female pastors. But let’s just consider this Girl Power Speech (written by a woman) that came to my attention yesterday.
I’ve included my notes in bold brackets:
I had to gather my thoughts after I listened to John MacArthur’s remarks on Beth Moore. My initial response was nausea, then anger, then sadness, then fire.
This type of exchange was common where I grew up, so it didn’t surprise me that there are pastors who believe these things. [What things? If you don’t quote him, then how can people judge his words for themselves?]
I have been removed from this type of dialogue for awhile now, so when I heard it again after over a decade, I was shocked and saddened. This is sin, through and through. [No, questioning a woman’s role as pastor is not a sin… Disagreeing with your perspective during the dialog is not sin.]
Let’s be real here, JMac’s remarks were not just shaming Moore. His words showed the state of his heart and was a slam against every woman who steps foot in a church. [Wow…. WOW. So quickly we’ve jumped from judging words that we haven’t seen to judging a HEART we haven’t seen! If all the women in Paul’s church said/wrote stuff like this, I can see why he asked them to be quiet.]
I know that God can and wants to work in John MacArthurs heart and in the hearts of every pastor in that room who laughed at the expense of a godly woman. [Google “begging the question.”]
I also know that God is a God of justice and we must call out lies when we see them for the sake of our friends, mothers, and daughters. [Does that include when it’s our friends, mothers, and daughters who need to be called out?]
When it comes down to it, I care about the opinion of one person; Jesus. [It sounds like you care pretty deeply about John MacArthur’s opinion, but okay…] What did Jesus do?
Scripture shows us that he engaged with women in theological discussions, taught women as his disciples, in His parables he included women (which was unheard of in his time), and he called out the voice of women. [Definitely true!]
Women stayed with Jesus at the cross.
Women were the first to share the good news of the gospel.
In the Bible women were military leaders, apostles, prophets, disciples, helped fund the ministry of the local church, and more.
[All of this is true. And it has nothing to do with John MacArthur’s criticism of Beth Moore.]
It is time for women in the church to be allowed to freely use their gifts.
It’s time for women who feel called to lead in the church to be allowed to be who God made them to be. [Yes! And it’s time for women to stop confusing “feeling called” with BEING called to do whatever they want.]
Let’s stop forcing these gifted women to look outside of the local church for ministry.
When half of the church is told that who they are and what they have to offer has little value, the enemy applauds. [Nobody is saying Beth Moore has “little value.” But if women think the pastoral role is more “valuable” than other roles–and if they feel entitled to demand that particular job as some human right–then we’ve spotted the problem right here.]
The church needs women too. Full stop.
Let’s pray for men like MacArthur and the pastors in that room, and in the next breath lift up the woman next to us. [I will not “lift up” a false teacher just because she’s female…]
Women, let’s direct our gaze to Christ and do the opposite of what MacArthur said. Let’s SHOW UP.
Well, I’m here, Ladies.
I’ve shown up because it’s clear that a WOMAN is going to have to help other women see when they’re being led astray by self-centered, envy-fueled Feminism. 🙂
But it’s not just me.
There are other female writers, speakers, and teachers who are part of this conversation–maybe even LEADING (gasp!) the discussion–because we recognize that men have the disadvantage of being assumed “misogynists” as soon as a woman gets offended.
Here’s an open letter to Beth Moore that was written by a half-dozen women last summer, after Beth started Tweeting questionable things about homosexuality. (She never really answered, maybe because she is more focused on what male critics are saying and doesn’t think female critics should be taken seriously?)
And this is an episode of the “Sheologians” podcast, in which a group of women explain the common areas of disagreement between Complimentarians and Egalitarians:
[I strongly recommend you listen to that. ^^^ It’s thought-provoking.]
Women like Summer White and Joy Temby (and Rachel Jankovic and Bekah Merkle and Alissa Childers and Carmen Schober) are SHOWING UP to help their friends, sisters, and daughters become scholars of Scripture and worshipers of God rather than followers of the culture and worshipers of themselves.
If you’re just going to share your feelings and hunches about a bunch of Bible-sounding stuff, it will be better for all of us if you just go home.