Changing My Stance on Racism

Just yesterday, I told somebody “I don’t deny individual instances of racism happen. I deny the problem is ‘systemic.'”

But–this morning–I realized I needed to walk that back. I’m changing my mind, very much the way I changed my mind about gay marriage back in 2013. I never want to become too stuck in my ways to accept a shift in perspective, when it’s necessary.

So, I must admit I was wrong yesterday, when I said, “Blacks feel oppressed–not because there’s a racist system in place…”

I’ve come to connect the dots and understand there IS a racist system causing harm to the Black Community.

And it’s known as “The Public Education System.”

What I should have said yesterday was, “Blacks feel oppressed because of the racist system which is in place.” That’s not to say I believe the KKK controls education and politics. Nor do I believe the “system” was built on hate.

Quite the opposite: I think the System is made of people who at least say they want to help. They’re the “good guys.”

(Although, I’m sure there are some hateful, conniving people who know full-well that the identity curriculum being pushed in public education has negative effects on minorities, and they do it anyway.)

Liberal blacks feel oppression because they’ve been systematically taught to internalize victimhood.

When your teachers, parents, and professors tell you, “Life is harder for you than for that white boy,” it’s not easy to overcome and be successful!

On the other hand, Conservative blacks feel oppressed because–though they escaped from the social brainwashing themselves and are relatively successful in business and family life–they suffer as victims of their mindless classmates who DID succumb to the lies and now react with hate toward free-thinking minorities.

Want an example? Check out this video from a Conservative black woman:

And then check out some of the comments!

“She is speaking against her own race like the ‘coon’ she is. But if she were to make any valid points speaking for black people she would still be that “nigger” in white people’s eyes…”

8.18.17 Racist Black person

“[White people] are looking for someone to confirm their racism.”

8.18.17 Racist Black person (#3)

“There are black people in here who are kissing her ass because [they’re] playing into coonery.”

8.18.17 Racist Black person (#2)

And just one more person suggesting certain opinions are “white” and others “black” (even though someone tried to correct him)…

8.18.17 Racist Black person (#4)

For the record, there were LOTS of positive comments from people who agreed with the way this woman called out the stupid extremism on BOTH sides of the culture war. (That includes many black men and women who thanked her for saying what she did.)

But there were many more comments like the ones I took pictures of as well.

I thought about editing the names and profile pictures of the racists, but then I decided not to. Evil prejudice must be exposed.

And what’s that? You don’t think black people can be “racist?”

Where did you learn that, I wonder?

State high school or State college?


The woman in the video above says, “As an African-American woman, I’m afraid of two things: the education system and the prison system.”

And, that’s when it clicked for me. YES, I’m afraid of the power of the education system, too.

Why?

Because it has contributed (rapidly) to a culture where it’s okay to divide people up by skin color, as long as you agree with the herd. (Otherwise you’re a “coon.”)

In our brave new world, a growing number of people are swallowing a “progressive” racism and thinking it’s good.

Just consider how far we’ve come from the message of the Civil Rights Era.

We’ve gone from, “I believe there is only one race–the human race.” (Rosa Parks)

…to “People who don’t see race are erasing black people.” (Rebecca Carroll, Guardian contributor)

Years ago, Martin Luther King Junior said:

“I have a dream that one day my four children will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.”

Today’s activists say:

“Progressive movements…have made some unfortunate errors when they push for unity [among races] at the expense of really understanding the concrete differences…” (Black Lives Matter Founder, Alicia Garcia)

In the 70’s, 80’s, and even early 90’s, society mainly agreed that people who were obsessed with race were “shallow” and needed to have their minds changed.

And now? The “intellectuals” are pushing this idea that “colorblindess” is a form of racism. They literally argue that you’re in need of a mind-change if you DON’T see color everywhere, the way they do.

How can that happen in such a short amount of time?

How can the racists actually believe they are the good guys?

Well…

…I have a theory…

We are a society completely awash in propaganda.

And, if we send our children to school to learn HOW to think, and they come home repeating WHAT the government decides they should think instead, what hope do they have?

If you’re a young, black American being told from Kindergarten that you’re probably going to get shot by a police officer soon, how will it shape you?

If you’re a young, white American, being told your duty as a good person is to think about your black friend’s blackness all the time, what happens over time?

If ALL of the students are being coached to believe that meditating on the various “differences” between them is healthy (and, indeed, focusing on what unites us is the same as “erasing black people”), what are we doing to our children?

If there’s systemic racism in this country–and I think there is–then THAT has to be it.

(Post Script: Americans are also educated to see “privilege” as a negative. That’s part of the reason some members of the black community are worried about “sounding white.” You can CLICK HERE to read my post about how to avoid raising “privileged” kids. It describes in more detail the cultural education my generation has absorbed.

15 thoughts on “Changing My Stance on Racism

  1. Sarah

    What is your definition of institutional/systemic racism? I’ve heard it most often described as policies and practices of institutions that disadvantage certain racial or ethnic groups (1). Does that sound about right to you? I found this article (2) to be helpful to laying out some examples for clarification of how a system can be racist. I do think a lot of institutional racism is related to implicit bias by individuals in official roles (police officers, judges, teachers, etc.), but I think the key is the disparities that result. That’s what makes it a system level issue, versus an individual social interaction. Both are bad and harmful, of course.

    How do you explain the racial disparities in any number of institutions (justice system, education system, etc)? If racial bias is not causing the disparity, then what is? I can’t think of any other explanation than the belief that people of color are inherently more violent/lawbreaking/etc, which is obviously the very definition of racism.

    It’s interesting that you feel there is a widespread and harmful tendency among both parents and schools communicating to children of color that they are victims (hopefully I’m paraphrasing accurately). I recently came across an article about a study that found that children of color are more likely to be seen as *less* innocent/childlike/vulnerable, which seems contradictory to the message they are victims. (3)

    (1) http://www.racialequitytools.org/resourcefiles/institutionalracism.pdf
    (2)https://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/at-the-edge/2015/05/06/institutional-racism-is-our-way-of-life
    (3) http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/28/health/black-girls-adultification-racial-bias-study/index.html

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    1. mrsmcmommy Post author

      In my opinion, a racist system must be motivated BY RACISM…

      If a supervisor or judge is disadvantaging minorities out of hatred for “their kind” or even a preference for “his kind” that would be racist and he should be prosecuted. (Please give me the name of any supervisor, politician, teacher, judge, etc. who might fit that description and I will stand with you to fight against the system he has created in his business, classroom, or courtroom.)

      But, if SOME minorities are “disadvantaged” by certain policies, because they tend to make choices that are different from their white counterparts, that’s not racism. Therefore, the system isn’t racist.

      The belief that black people are more violent is not racist if they statistically ARE more violent. We need to stop taking that explanation off the table without examining it. Children who grow up in poverty and without strong male role models at home tend to be more violent. That’s across all ethnic groups.

      If you want to help the black community, you will address that, and stop citing statistics that “black children are seen as less innocent” without also teaching those kids how statistics work. Ask them to think critically. What reasons could there be for this? Are there any counter-studies? Were only white adults studied, or are black adults “biased” also? This will teach the child–of any race–to reason carefully, which will change their life.

      When you tell a black kid that studies show he is viewed as less innocent–and then also tell him WHAT TO THINK about that study–i.e. “because whites are still prejudiced, left over from the Slavery Era”–you disadvantage him. Especially if this is a young boy who has been acting out in school, you are willfully overlooking the cultural issues in his household and handing him a less-likely explanation for why HE IS CHOOSING to be disrespectful toward his teachers. That’s patronizing him rather than helping.

      (By the way, I’d be curious whether the “biased” adults are white or black…)

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  2. Sarah

    I agree with you that there are several social factors that affect statistical outcomes for racial/ethnic groups, but racism is a significant component and has effects on those other factors. For example, linking income levels and racism: accumulation of wealth is certainly intergenerational, and thus the effects of slavery and discrimination still affect people of color today. If we, as a country, have dramatically disadvantaged groups in the past, and then we refuse to right those wrongs, that is a continuation of racism.
    https://www.thenation.com/article/the-average-black-family-would-need-228-years-to-build-the-wealth-of-a-white-family-today/

    There’s plenty of evidence that black people are disproportionately affected within in the justice system that cannot be explained away by extraneous factors. Here’s one example of research done:
    http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/07/politics/blacks-wrongful-convictions-study/index.html

    Here’s some additional research that contradicts the theory that kids of color are being told they are victims and that (versus racism) is therefore disadvantaging them. This study actually shows that belief that institutions are fair leads to worse outcomes. https://www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/535035/

    Regarding the study about bias against black girls: I thought it went without saying, but I agree we should teach kids to think critically and understand statistics. You’re not addressing how the research undermines your theory; the study finds that people tend to actually see black girls as less innocent, which contradicts the idea of that they are seen as victims. Are you saying that you think the SAME people who tend to view black girls as less innocent are ALSO the ones who would then tell them they are victims? Or are you disagreeing that kids of color actually do need the same nurturing and are less innocent than white kids?

    I went through the first five minutes of the video and noted my comments. If you’d like, I can do the same for the rest of the video, I just felt like this was already getting way too long.
    1) He only addresses statistics related to white cops *killing* black people. There are many other ways that racial bias could affect policing, such as blacks getting searched much more often than white people when they get pulled over. That’s from article 2 from the last post, which is originally from a DOJ report, but here’s another good article: https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/07/data-police-racial-bias
    2) Let’s establish up front that data on police shootings is not the best because it was not being collected at a national level, but they have started tracking it better recently. In 2015, the rates of unarmed blacks being shot by police is nearly double the rate for unarmed white people. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/07/11/arent-more-white-people-than-black-people-killed-by-police-yes-but-no
    3) This study is on deadly force done by Wash U (since he referenced it I was able to look it up), is very interesting in that it contradicts most studies. I find this kind of thing hopeful that if people are made more aware of bias, they are less likely to act on it. The research on implicit bias is complicated, that’s for sure. Notably, even the people who did this study reference the legitimacy of implicit bias: “However,” they added, “there is some evidence from the field to support the proposition that an officer’s threat bias could cause him or her to tend to take more time to make decisions to shoot people whom they subconsciously perceived as more threatening because of race or ethnicity. This behavioral ‘counter-bias’ might be rooted in people’s concerns about the social and legal consequences of shooting a member of a historically oppressed racial or ethnic group.”
    4) I understand why he brings up the homicide rate for blacks – it is insanely high – but people of color are more likely to be poor and live in high crime areas precisely because of institutional racism. The drug war is one example of how black communities have been deeply harmed by institutionalized racism.

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    1. mrsmcmommy Post author

      I’ve seen all of these statistics before, Sarah. None of them demonstrate that racism is a significant factor.

      Education is a better explanation for all of those phenomenon. And you’re contributing to that education by telling people “There are many factors! But pink elephants are one of those factors!”

      It’s like you didn’t even watch the video. He addressed why all of those stats demonstrate correlation rather than causation. Again, name a police officer, teacher, judge, or entire department which is racist and we can tackle the problem. Otherwise you’re chasing a bogeyman and (to quote this other video you won’t watch) “you’re drawing a trend from an anecdote.”

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    2. mrsmcmommy Post author

      (Oh, and one more thing. I did address your stat that black kids tend to be seen as less innocent by adults… I asked whether it was white or black adults who were being studied. If it was only white adults–which I suspect–then it tells us nothing.)

      On my Facebook wall, someone mentioned that white parents tend to disapprove slightly of their child being in an interracial relationship. And grandparents tend to disapprove more strongly. So I asked “Were black parents studied as well?”

      That’s when the person admitted: yes. The two groups most likely to have racial bias are white fathers and black mothers. She didn’t mention that until I asked. But if ‘bias’ is important, then we need to be honest about WHO’S biased and WHY.

      Stats also show that black cops are more likely than white ones to draw their weapons. Are they biased? Or do they just know, from personal experience, that certain areas are more violent and they need to be careful in places where youth are taught not to trust the police. Look at ALL the data, and then you’ll realize you need to look at other explanations…or else you have to argue that blacks are racist against themselves.

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  3. Sarah

    Please explain how wrongful conviction stats don’t suggest race as the major factor. What intervening factor do you attribute?

    I thought your question was rhetorical, otherwise you would have clicked on the link and answered the question for yourself. A variety of races are included, in fact about proportionate to the racial makeup of the US. However, that doesn’t matter either way. People of color show racial bias as well – I discussed this when I talked about internalized racism. It doesn’t mean the bias does not exist, and in fact makes it more pervasive. Racism is not about white versus POC, it’s about bias against POC in general. Internalized racism is also well documented. The real question is whether or not it’s okay to view black girls as less innocent than white girls and how this contradicts your theory that black kids are seen as victims.

    I clearly did watch your video, because I took the time to write out comments for the first five minutes. If there’s a specific point you want someone to get from a 15 minute video, it would be helpful to let them know what you are focusing on.

    Per the most recent video, I’m not against handling individual acts of racism as they occur, but it’s also not okay to ignore less blatant attitudes people have (such as viewing black girls as less innocent than white girls). The article you have not addressed – the one that contradicts your theory – regarding kids who are told the system is fair having worse outcomes clearly indicates that talking about institutional racism and other biases actually helps kids of color do better.

    If you are going to attribute racial disparities to other social factors – namely, poverty and lack of males in the household – then it would make sense to delve into how racism has affected those factors. I already posted about the effects of slavery and discrimination on the black community from an income perspective, as well as how the drug war (removing many men of color from their families) is an example of institutionalized racism. (Neither of which you have addressed.) Addressing these types of institutional racism would be a lot more effective than calling out individual acts of racism today. I’m also very interested on research on implicit bias – as I mentioned, a really complicated topic but very much worth exploring more. The belief that black girls are less innocent than white girls is a perfect example.

    You believe that blacks make “different choices than white counterparts” that end up causing disparities, and you believe that the reason they do this is liberal propaganda (to get POC to vote for Democrats over Republicans). And you believe that POC are taught this liberal propaganda in public schools and by their parents, by being told they are victims, and somehow believing they are victims causes them to be poor and discriminated against and everything flows from this belief they have. What research do you have that this is true?

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    1. mrsmcmommy Post author

      All of my research is the same as yours. All of your stats and studies are just as supportive of my theory as yours–and in many cases more supportive.

      You explain away black bias as “internalized racism,” and that’s when I’m no longer interested in a conversation. LOL! I’ve been told by feminists that I’m not a real woman and had my points dismissed on the basis of “internalized misogyny.” It’s condescending at best and downright evil at worst…and I’ve heard black Conservatives say the exact same thing about being labeled with “internalized racism.”

      Have a great day.

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      1. Sarah

        Oh good grief Amanda. You think the concept of internalized racism is condescending (or possibly evil), meanwhile you are convinced that the vast majority of people of color in this country (plus the liberals) have been brainwashed by liberal media into thinking they are being oppressed when really they are not. You are seriously the pot calling the kettle black (no pun intended). You refuse to respond to any specific content of the research I’ve presented (and generally refuse to respond to much of what I’ve presented in general). You have three young kids and a fourth on the way, and if I’m not mistaken you homeschool; I imagine your life is very hectic and maybe you don’t have time for this kind of discussion. Zero judgment there – kids are a huge and worthwhile investment of time and energy. Let me know if you want to have a meaningful discussion at some point.

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      2. mrsmcmommy Post author

        Yes, it is condescending to tell blacks who disagree with you that they just hate themselves in order to cling to your theory that racism is still the cause of everything bad in the black community.

        To silence black Conservatives, so you don’t have to deal with the cultural and educational problems they are trying to get their families and friends to address and be free as they are, is wrong.

        But, I’ll admit, if White bias is ultimately the fault of racist whites AND BLACK BIAS is also the fault of racist whites, then you’ve made a case that’s impossible to argue against. None of it is the responsibility of the black community, and they can blame our history of slavery literally forever. Congratulations! I guess you win. 😉

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